Job 30:8

Hebrew (Westminster Leningrad Codex) Job 30:8 appears in the Hebrew Old Testament. The text above is from the Westminster Leningrad Codex. Each word links to its Strong’s number, a concise gloss, and parsing drawn from the Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible morphology. Click any word for its full Brown-Driver-Briggs (BDB) entry.
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They are children of fools, yes, children of base men. They were flogged out of the land.
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  • World English Bible Public Domain
    They are children of fools, yes, children of base men. They were flogged out of the land.
  • King James Version Public Domain
    They were children of fools, yea, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.
  • unfoldingWord Literal Text CC BY-SA 4.0
    Sons of a fool, indeed, sons of without a name! They are scourged from the land.

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  • World English Bible Public Domain
    They are children of fools, yes, children of base men. They were flogged out of the land.
  • Berean Standard Bible Public Domain
    A senseless and nameless brood, they were driven off the land.
  • Majority Standard Bible Public Domain
    A senseless and nameless brood, they were driven off the land.
  • King James Version Public Domain
    They were children of fools, yea, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.
  • American Standard Version (1901) Public Domain
    `They are' children of fools, yea, children of base men; They were scourged out of the land.
  • Revised Version (1885) Public Domain
    They are children of fools, yea, children of base men; they were scourged out of the land.
  • Geneva Bible (1599) Public Domain
    They were the children of fooles and the children of villaines, which were more vile then the earth.
  • Douay-Rheims (1899) Public Domain
    The children of foolish and base men, and not appearing at all upon the earth.
  • Young's Literal Translation Public Domain
    Sons of folly -- even sons without name, They have been smitten from the land.
  • Literal Standard Version CC BY-SA 4.0
    Sons of folly—even sons without name, || They have been struck from the land.
  • Unlocked Literal Bible CC BY-SA 4.0
    They were the sons of fools, indeed, sons of nameless people! They were driven out of the land with whips.
  • unfoldingWord Literal Text CC BY-SA 4.0
    Sons of a fool, indeed, sons of without a name! They are scourged from the land.
  • Darby Bible Public Domain
    Sons of fools, and sons of nameless sires, they are driven out of the land.
  • World Messianic Bible Public Domain
    They are children of fools, yes, children of wicked men. They were flogged out of the land.
  • Webster's Bible Public Domain
    They were children of fools, yes, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.
  • Free Bible Version CC BY-SA 4.0
    They are foolish, nameless people that have been driven from the land.
  • Bible in Basic English Public Domain
    They are sons of shame, and of men without a name, who have been forced out of the land.
  • JPS Tanakh (1917) Public Domain
    They are children of churls, yea, children of ignoble men; they were scourged out of the land.

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Notable vocabulary

1 hapax legomenon — a word that appears only here in the entire Hebrew Bible:

  • נִ֝כְּא֗וּ to strike H5217

First appearance in Scripture

This word makes its first canonical appearance in the Hebrew Bible here:

  • נִ֝כְּא֗וּ to strike H5217

Shared distinctive vocabulary

נָ֭בָל foolish H5036 occurs in 18 verses of the Hebrew Bible. Also found in:

Grammatical profile

  • 1 verb
  • 4 nouns
  • 1 adjective
  • 1 preposition
  • 2 particles

Verb forms

  • נִ֝כְּא֗וּ Niphal · Perfect

Repetition

A word recurs within this verse — often emphatic in Hebrew:

  • בְּֽנֵי son H1121 ×2

Hebrew & Septuagint length

In English translation the verse runs 17 words from the Hebrew and 18 from the Septuagint (LXX English) — closely comparable.

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Word counts can differ between the Hebrew and the Greek without any difference in meaning — e.g. the Hebrew direct-object marker אֵת has no separate Greek word, and Greek often adds the article ὁ.

In the original languages it is 9 Hebrew tokens and 10 Greek tokens — but the two are counted differently (Hebrew bundles its prefixes and suffixes into one token; the Greek is in lemma form), so that isn’t a like-for-like length.

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Topical passages linked to Job 30:8 in the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge — connected by theme and wording, ordered by reader-vote popularity; previews shown in the World English Bible.

  • Proverbs 16:22 Understanding is a fountain of life to one who has it, But the punishment of fools is their folly.
  • Job 40:4 "Behold, I am of small account. What shall I answer you? I lay my hand on my mouth.
  • Proverbs 1:7 The fear of Yahweh is the beginning of knowledge; But the foolish despise wisdom and instruction.
  • Proverbs 1:22 "How long, you simple ones, will you love simplicity? How long will mockers delight themselves in mockery, And fools hate knowledge?
  • Isaiah 32:6 For the fool will speak folly, and his heart will work iniquity, to practice profanity, and to utter error against Yahweh, to make empty the soul of the hungry, and to cause the drink of the thirsty to fail.
  • Jeremiah 7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead the dough, to make cakes to the queen of the sky, and to pour out drink-offerings to other gods, that they may provoke me to anger.
  • Mark 6:24 She went out, and said to her mother, "What shall I ask?" She said, "The head of John the Baptizer."
  • 2 Kings 8:18 He walked in the way of the kings of Israel, as did the house of Ahab: for he had the daughter of Ahab as wife; and he did that which was evil in the sight of Yahweh.
  • 2 Kings 8:27 He walked in the way of the house of Ahab, and did that which was evil in the sight of Yahweh, as did the house of Ahab; for he was the son-in-law of the house of Ahab.
  • 2 Chronicles 22:3 He also walked in the ways of the house of Ahab; for his mother was his counselor to do wickedly.
  • Psalms 15:4 In whose eyes a vile man is despised, But who honors those who fear Yahweh; He who keeps an oath even when it hurts, and doesn't change;
  • Psalms 49:10–13 For he sees that wise men die; Likewise the fool and the senseless perish, And leave their wealth to others.

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Hebrew and Greek witnesses Masoretic Hebrew ↔ Greek Septuagint

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Hebrew Job 30:8 Masoretic · Westminster Leningrad Codex

בְּֽנֵי נָ֭בָל גַּם בְּנֵ֣י בְלִי שֵׁ֑ם נִ֝כְּא֗וּ מִן הָאָֽרֶץ

They are children of fools, yes, children of base men. They were flogged out of the land.

World English Bible · Public Domain

Greek LXX Job 30:8 Septuagint · lemma form

ἄφρων υἱός καί ἄτιμος ὄνομα καί κλέος σβέννυμι ἀπό γῆ

They are sons of fools and vile men, whose name and glory are quenched from off the earth.

LXX2012 (modern English Septuagint) · Public Domain

Hebrew: Westminster Leningrad Codex (CC BY 4.0). Greek: Septuagint (public domain); English from LXX2012 (modern English Septuagint) (Public Domain). How the Septuagint differs from the Hebrew →

Commentary

Notes on Job 30:8 from classic Christian and Jewish commentators (each source and its license shown beneath its notes). The classic Christian expositions comment on the surrounding passage and are grouped to its opening verse, so a note may address several verses; the Jewish commentaries on the Tanakh (Rashi and others) are per-verse, so they appear only where the commentator wrote on this verse.

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Trapp's Complete Commentary

John Trapp

Job 30:8 [They were] children of fools, yea, children of base men: they were viler than the earth.

Ver. 8. They were children of fools, yea, children of base men] Homines flagitiosissimi, etiam homines ignominiosissimi afflictissimi erant, extorres, so Tremellius translateth; Naught all over they were, and nought esteemed; what wonder, therefore, if heavily afflicted and relegated? Their poverty was self-procured, and, therefore, unpitied; they had brought themselves into the briars, and also in their fathers’ iniquities they were pining away with them, Lev 26:39. Evil eggs they were of evil birds, nihili homunciones et inglorii, as the Tigurines translate, fellows of no fashion, and as little account, terrae filii, earth sprung mushrooms, men in whom all true wisdom was faded and decayed, sapless persons, Nabals, Nebulones.

They were viler than the earth] Terra quam ferimus, terra etiam quam terimus; or, They were smitten out of the earth, driven out of the land, sc. by me when I was in power; but now these vile varlets show themselves again, and trample upon me with the feet of pride and petulancy, Leoni mortuo vel mus insultat.

John Trapp, A Commentary or Exposition upon All the Books of the Old and New Testament (1647–1656) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Joseph Benson's Commentary

Job 30:8-10. They were children of fools, &c. — They were children of base, obscure parents; viler than the earth upon which they trod. Houbigant translates the verse: Foolish men and inglorious, they were driven out of the country in which they lived. And now am I their song — The matter of their song and derision. They now rejoice in my calamities, because I formerly used my authority to punish such vagrants. They flee far from me — In contempt of my person, and loathing of my sores; and spare not to spit in my face — Not literally, for they kept far from him, as he now said, but figuratively; that is, they use all manner of contemptuous and reproachful expressions toward me, not only behind my back, but even to my face. Houbigant reads, They abominate me; they hold me in the utmost abhorrence; and fear not to spit in my face. Here we may see in Job a type of Christ, who was thus made a reproach of men, and despised of the people.

Joseph Benson's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments (1811–1818) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown

fools--that is, the impious and abandoned (Sa1 25:25).

base--nameless, low-born rabble.

viler than, &c.--rather, they were driven or beaten out of the land. The Horites in Mount Seir (Gen 14:6 with which compare Gen 36:20-21; Deu 2:12, Deu 2:22) were probably the aborigines, driven out by the tribe to which Job's ancestors belonged; their name means troglodytæ, or "dwellers in caves." To these Job alludes here (Job 30:1-8, and Gen 24:4-8, which compare together).

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown — Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871) — public domain (CC PDM 1.0). Text via the HelloAO Bible API.

Adam Clarke's Commentary

Verse 8. Children of fools] Children of nabal; children without a name; persons of no consideration, and descendants of such.

Viler than the earth.] Rather, driven out of the land; persons not fit for civil society.

Adam Clarke's Commentary on the Bible (1810–1826) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword/MySword module.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

(8) They were viler than the earth.—Rather, They are scourged out of the land, or are outcasts from the land.

A Bible Commentary for English Readers, edited by Charles John Ellicott (1878–1897) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges

gen. ed. J. J. S. Perowne

8. The verse reads in close connexion with Job_30:7,

Children of fools, yea children of base men,

They are scourged out of the land.

Children of “base men,” lit. of no name, i. e. base born, they are beaten or “crushed” out of the land.

The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges (gen. ed. J. J. S. Perowne; Cambridge University Press, 1878–1918) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

John Gill's Exposition

They were children of fools,.... Their parents were fools, or they themselves were such; foolish children, or foolish men, were they that derided Job; and their derision of him was a proof of it: the meaning is not that they were idiots, or quite destitute of reason and natural knowledge, but that they were men of slender capacities; they were "Nabal like", which is the word here used of them; and, indeed, it may easily be concluded, they could not have much knowledge of men and things, from their pedigree, education, and manner of living before described; though rather this may signify their being wicked men, or children of such, which is the sense of the word "fool" frequently in the Psalms of David, and in the Proverbs of Solomon; and men may be fools in this sense, as having no understanding of divine and spiritual things, who yet have wit enough to do evil, though to do good they have no knowledge:

yea, children of base men, or "men without a name" (s); a kind without fame, Mr. Broughton renders it; an infamous generation of men, famous for nothing; had no name for blood, birth, and breeding; for families, for power and authority among men, having no title of honour or of office; nor for wealth, wisdom, nor strength, for which some have a name; but these men had no name but an ill one, for their folly and wickedness; had no good name, were of no credit and reputation with men; and perhaps, strictly and literally speaking, were without a name, being a spurious and bastardly breed; or living solitary in woods and deserts, in cliffs and caves; they belonged not to any tribe or nation, and so bore no name:

they are viler than the earth; on which they trod, and who are unworthy to tread upon it; and out of which their vile bodies were made, and yet were viler than that which is the basest of the elements, being most distant from heaven, the throne of God (t); they were not so valuable as some parts of the earth, the gold and silver, but were as vile as the dross of the earth, and viler than that; they were crushed and bruised, and "broken" more than the earth, as the word (u) signifies; they were as small and as contemptible as the dust of the earth and the mire of the streets, and more so; or than the men of the earth, as Aben Ezra observes, than the meanest and worst, and vilest of men: Mr. Broughton renders it, "banished from the earth"; smitten, stricken, and driven out of the land where they had dwelt, Job 30:5; whipped out of it, as some translate the word (w), as vagabonds; as a lazy, idle, pilfering set of people, not fit to be in human society; and by such base, mean, lowly people, were Christ and his apostles ill treated; see Mat 23:33.

(s) "absque nomine", Pagninus, Montanus, Vatablus; so Beza, Mercerus, Piscator, Drusius, Michaelis, Cocceius. (t) See Weemse's Observat. Natural. c 3. (u) "contriti", Montanus, Bolducius; so the Targum. (w) "Flagellati", Schultens.

John Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible (1746–1763) — public domain (CC PDM 1.0). Text via the HelloAO Bible API.

Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible

They were children of fools - The word rendered “fools” נבל nâbâl, means,

(1) stupid, foolish; and

(2) abandoned, impious; compare 1Sa 25:3, 1Sa 25:25.

Here it means the worthless, the refuse of society, the abandoned. They had no respectable parentage. Umbreit, “A brood of infamy.” Coverdale, “Children of fools and villains.”

Children of base men - Margin, as in Hebrew, “men of no name.” They were men of no reputation; whose ancestors had in no way been distinguished; possibly meaning, also, that they herded together as beasts without even a name.

They were viler than the earth - Gesenius renders this, “They are frightened out of the land.” The Hebrew word (כאה) means “to chide, to upbraid,” and then in the niphal “to be chidden away,” or “to be driven off.” The sense is, as an impious and low-born race they were driven out of the land.

Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible (1834–1885) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword/MySword module.

Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary

And not. Hebrew, "viler than the earth." (Protestants)

George Leo Haydock (1774–1849), Haydock's Catholic Family Bible and Commentary, 1859 edition — public domain. Excludes Psalms (Douay-Rheims chapter numbering differs from Protestant) and Deuterocanonical books (Catholic canon only).

Matthew Poole's English Annotations

Children of fools; either,

1. The genuine children of foolish parents; their children not only by birth, but by imitation; as they only are esteemed the children of Abraham who do the works of Abraham, Joh 8:39. Or,

2. Fools, by a common Hebraism, as the sons of men are put for men, and the children of wisdom for wise men, &c.

Children of base men, Heb. men without name, i.e. without any degree of credit or reputation; as men of name is put for renowned persons, Gen 6:4.

Viler than the earth, which we tread and spit upon, and are not willing to touch.

Matthew Poole's English Annotations on the Holy Bible (1683–1685) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword/MySword module.

Whedon's Commentary on the Bible

Daniel D. Whedon

8. They were viler than the earth — Rather, They are beaten out of the land. Our aborigines furnish a parallel case.

Daniel D. Whedon (gen. ed.), Commentary on the Old and New Testaments (1874–1909) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

The Pulpit Commentary

They were children of fools. The physical degeneracy whereof Job has been speaking is accompanied in most instances by extreme mental incapacity. Some of the degraded races cannot count beyond four or five; others have not more than two or three hundred words in their vocabulary. They are all of low intellect, though occasionally extremely artful and cunning. Yea, children of base men; literally, children of no name. Their race had never made for itself any name, but was unknown and insignificant. They were viler than the earth; rather, they were scourged out of the land. This must not be understood literally. It is a rhetorical repetition of what had been already said in ver. 5. The expression may be compared with the tale in Herodotus, that when the Scythian slaves rebelled and took up arms, the Scythians scourged them into subjection (Herod., 4:3, 4).

The Pulpit Commentary (1880–1919), ed. H.D.M. Spence-Jones & Joseph S. Exell — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Rashi

Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)

were broken (in my days) from the land for I would humble them. [נִכְאוּ is] an expression of (Isa. 66:2), “of crushed spirit (נכה רוח).”

Rashi on the Tanakh — English translations: “The Judaica Press complete Tanach with Rashi, translated by A. J. Rosenberg” (CC BY 4.0); “Pentateuch with Rashi's commentary by M. Rosenbaum and A.M. Silbermann, 1929-1934” (public domain); “The Metsudah Tanach series, Lakewood, N.J” (CC BY 4.0); and “The Book of Joshua, Metsudah Publications, 1997” (CC BY 4.0). Text via Sefaria.

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Job, in the Wisdom, opens this verse with 9 words (8 distinct Hebrew lemmas). Its most distinctive word is nâkâʼ (“to strike”). A historical commentator’s framing appears above. Read the whole chapter for the surrounding context.

Discussion questions

  1. How does “to strike” (nâkâʼ) shape what this verse is saying?
  2. This verse holds 1 word here found nowhere else in the Hebrew Bible. What might the rare word draw attention to?
  3. The word “to strike” first appears here in Scripture. What is being introduced at this debut?
  4. Deuteronomy 32:6 shares the word «foolish» with this verse. How do the two illuminate each other?
  5. “son” occurs 2× in this one verse. What is the effect of the repetition?
  6. These translations render this verse differently; the difference is in the English rendering, not the original. What questions does that raise?
  7. The verb «נִ֝כְּא֗וּ» is Niphal Perfect. How does its form color the action?
  8. Reading how Trapp's Complete Commentary and Joseph Benson's Commentary read this verse, where do the two commentators agree and where do they part?

Things to notice

  • 1 word in this verse appears nowhere else in the Hebrew Bible.
  • 1 word makes its first canonical appearance in Scripture here.
  • This verse counts 9 Hebrew ↔ 10 Greek words.
  • These translations choose different wording for 17 words in this verse.
  • “son” occurs 2× in this single verse.

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