Job 21:29

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Haven't you asked wayfaring men? Don't you know their evidences,
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  • World English Bible Public Domain
    Haven't you asked wayfaring men? Don't you know their evidences,
  • King James Version Public Domain
    Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do ye not know their tokens,
  • unfoldingWord Literal Text CC BY-SA 4.0
    Have you not asked travelers of the way? Or do you not acknowledge their signs,

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  • World English Bible Public Domain
    Haven't you asked wayfaring men? Don't you know their evidences,
  • Berean Standard Bible Public Domain
    Have you never asked those who travel the roads? Do you not accept their reports?
  • Majority Standard Bible Public Domain
    Have you never asked those who travel the roads? Do you not accept their reports?
  • King James Version Public Domain
    Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do ye not know their tokens,
  • American Standard Version (1901) Public Domain
    Have ye not asked wayfaring men? And do ye not know their evidences,
  • Revised Version (1885) Public Domain
    Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do ye not know their tokens?
  • Geneva Bible (1599) Public Domain
    May ye not aske the that go by the way? and ye can not deny their signes.
  • Douay-Rheims (1899) Public Domain
    Ask any one of them that go by the way, and you shall perceive that he knoweth these same things.
  • Young's Literal Translation Public Domain
    Have ye not asked those passing by the way? And their signs do ye not know?
  • Literal Standard Version CC BY-SA 4.0
    Have you not asked those passing by the way? And do you not know their signs?
  • Unlocked Literal Bible CC BY-SA 4.0
    Have you never asked traveling people? Do you not know the evidence they can tell,
  • unfoldingWord Literal Text CC BY-SA 4.0
    Have you not asked travelers of the way? Or do you not acknowledge their signs,
  • Darby Bible Public Domain
    Have ye not asked the wayfarers? and do ye not regard their tokens:
  • World Messianic Bible Public Domain
    Haven’t you asked wayfaring men? Don’t you know their evidences,
  • Webster's Bible Public Domain
    Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do ye not know their tokens,
  • Free Bible Version CC BY-SA 4.0
    Haven't you asked people who travel? Don't you pay attention to what they tell you?
  • Bible in Basic English Public Domain
    Have you not put the question to the travellers, and do you not take note of their experience?
  • JPS Tanakh (1917) Public Domain
    Have ye not asked them that go by the way; and will ye misdeem their tokens,

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תְנַכֵּֽרוּ
nâkar
H5234
“to know”
Verb, Piel, Imperfect, 2nd Person, Masculine, Plural
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Piel
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Full BDB Definition

Origin: a primitive root

TWOT: 1368

to recognise, acknowledge, know, respect, discern, regard - (Niphal) to be recognised - (Piel) to regard - (Hiphil) - to regard, observe, pay attention to, pay regard to, notice - to recognise (as formerly known), perceive - to be willing to recognise or acknowledge, acknowledge with honour - to be acquainted with - to distinguish, understand - (Hithpael) to make oneself known - to act or treat as foreign or strange, disguise, misconstrue - (Niphal) to disguise oneself - (Piel) - to treat as foreign (profane) - to misconstrue - (Hithpael) - to act as alien - to disguise oneself
  1. הֲלֹ֣א lôʼ H3808 “not” Particle, Interrogative + Particle, Negative
  2. שְׁ֭אֶלְתֶּם shâʼal H7592 “to ask” Verb, Qal, Perfect, 2nd Person, Masculine, Plural
  3. ע֣וֹבְרֵי ʻâbar H5674 “passing over” Verb, Qal, Participle Active, Masculine, Plural, Construct
  4. דָ֑רֶךְ derek H1870 “way” Noun, Common, Both, Singular, Absolute
  5. וְ֝אֹתֹתָ֗ם ʼôwth H226 “and · signs · their” Conjunction + Noun, Common, Both, Plural, Construct + Suffix, Personal, 3rd Person, Masculine, Plural
  6. לֹ֣א lôʼ H3808 “not” Particle, Negative

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7
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6
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Shared distinctive vocabulary

תְנַכֵּֽרוּ to know H5234 occurs in 47 verses of the Hebrew Bible. Also found in:

Grammatical profile

  • 3 verbs
  • 2 nouns
  • 2 particles

Verb forms

  • שְׁ֭אֶלְתֶּם Qal · Perfect
  • ע֣וֹבְרֵי Qal · Participle Active
  • תְנַכֵּֽרוּ Piel · Imperfect

Repetition

A word recurs within this verse — often emphatic in Hebrew:

  • הֲלֹ֣א not H3808 ×2

Hebrew & Septuagint length

In English translation the verse runs 10 words from the Hebrew and 13 from the Septuagint (LXX English) — closely comparable.

A rough comparison of the two English renderings, which tokenize alike — not a word-level alignment.

Word counts can differ between the Hebrew and the Greek without any difference in meaning — e.g. the Hebrew direct-object marker אֵת has no separate Greek word, and Greek often adds the article ὁ.

In the original languages it is 7 Hebrew tokens and 9 Greek tokens — but the two are counted differently (Hebrew bundles its prefixes and suffixes into one token; the Greek is in lemma form), so that isn’t a like-for-like length.

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Topical passages linked to Job 21:29 in the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge — connected by theme and wording, ordered by reader-vote popularity; previews shown in the World English Bible.

  • Psalms 129:8 Neither do those who go by say, "The blessing of Yahweh be on you. We bless you in the name of Yahweh."

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Hebrew and Greek witnesses Masoretic Hebrew ↔ Greek Septuagint

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Hebrew Job 21:29 Masoretic · Westminster Leningrad Codex

הֲלֹ֣א שְׁ֭אֶלְתֶּם ע֣וֹבְרֵי דָ֑רֶךְ וְ֝אֹתֹתָ֗ם לֹ֣א תְנַכֵּֽרוּ

Haven't you asked wayfaring men? Don't you know their evidences,

World English Bible · Public Domain

Greek LXX Job 21:29 Septuagint · lemma form

ἐρωτάω παραπορεύομαι ὁδός καί ὁ σημεῖον αὐτός οὐ ἀποἀλλοτριόω

Ask those that go by the way, and do not disown their tokens.

LXX2012 (modern English Septuagint) · Public Domain

Hebrew: Westminster Leningrad Codex (CC BY 4.0). Greek: Septuagint (public domain); English from LXX2012 (modern English Septuagint) (Public Domain). How the Septuagint differs from the Hebrew →

Commentary

Notes on Job 21:29 from classic Christian and Jewish commentators (each source and its license shown beneath its notes). The classic Christian expositions comment on the surrounding passage and are grouped to its opening verse, so a note may address several verses; the Jewish commentaries on the Tanakh (Rashi and others) are per-verse, so they appear only where the commentator wrote on this verse.

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Trapp's Complete Commentary

John Trapp

Job 21:29 Have ye not asked them that go by the way? and do ye not know their tokens,

Ver. 29. Have ye not asked them that go by the way?] The cause of their rash judgment, Job showeth here to be their ignorance of things known to every ordinary passenger, and such as whereof there are many pregnant proofs and examples everywhere. Some, by them that go by the way, understand men by experience, such as have gone many voyages, &c., made many observations in their travels of things remarkable; their notes are here called their tokens. By those that go by the way, others understand Abraham, the Hebrew (so he is called, Gen 14:13 that is, that Trans-Euphratean, or, he that passed over the river Euphrates, when he passed by the way from Chaldea to Canaan), and his progeny, Isaac and Jacob, who were passengers and pilgrims, and could tell, by experience, that men greatly afflicted may be yet favoured of God, and in due time delivered. Abraham had ten sore trials, and yet was the friend of God. Isaac, besides many other sharp afflictions all along his pilgrimage, was blind for over twenty years before his death. Few and evil were the days of the years of Jacob, his whole life almost one continuous affliction, and yet it was, Jacob have I loved. Of all this Job likely was not ignorant, and why should his friends?

And do ye not know their tokens?] Or, Their tokens you shall not be estranged from. Broughton thus, So ye would not make their signs strange. There will be so much evidence of truth in what they say, that you will not be able to gainsay it.

John Trapp, A Commentary or Exposition upon All the Books of the Old and New Testament (1647–1656) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Joseph Benson's Commentary

Job 21:29-30. Have ye not asked them that go by the way? — In these verses we have an answer to the preceding question; as if he had said, Even the travellers that pass along the road can inform you: it is so vulgar a thing that no man of common sense is ignorant of it. They can give you tokens, examples, or evidences of this truth. That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction — That they are not punished as they deserve in the present world, and therefore that they shall be in the next. They shall be brought forth to the day of wrath — The day of future and final wrath, when God will judge the world in righteousness, and render unto every man according to his deeds, even indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil. “I believe,” says Dr. Dodd, from Peters, “that by the day of destruction and the day of wrath, mentioned in this verse, can be meant no other than the future day of judgment; which, to the wicked and ungodly, is everywhere represented in Scripture as a day of wrath, a day of destruction and perdition. See 2Th 1:9; 2Pe 3:7. And it is remarkable that Job, when he declares to his friends that he had been all along withheld from sinning by a pious awe of the divine justice, (meaning, as I apprehend, the thoughts of a future judgment,) uses a like expression, Job 31:23. Destruction from God was a terror to me; איד, aid, the very same word as is used here. To understand it of a temporal destruction is to suppose Job to cut the neck of his own argument, and to fall in directly with the reasoning of his friends; for thus it would stand, (Job 21:27,) ‘Behold I know your thoughts, &c. — I know what you would insinuate by the speeches which you make; such as this which follows, Job 21:28, Where is the house? &c. As if you should say, What is become of the house of Job, who lived like a prince? Or what, in general, is the portion of the wicked? Does not a great and sure destruction overtake them?’ This is evidently the meaning of the question; the answer immediately follows, Job 21:29, Ask those who go by the way, &c. Now if this were meant of a temporal destruction, it directly confirms the insinuation of his friends, and the inference would be unavoidable; therefore Job must needs be wicked. The sense I contend for, must, therefore, needs be the true one.”

Joseph Benson's Commentary on the Old and New Testaments (1811–1818) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Geneva Bible (1599)

Geneva Bible translators

Which through long travailing have experience and tokens thereof, to wit, that the wicked do prosper, and the godly live in affliction.

Geneva Bible (1599) marginal notes — public domain. Text via Bolls.life.

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown

Job, seeing that the friends will not admit him as an impartial judge, as they consider his calamities prove his guilt, begs them to ask the opinion of travellers (Lam 1:12), who have the experience drawn from observation, and who are no way connected with him. Job opposes this to Bildad (Job 8:8) and Zophar (Job 20:4).

tokens--rather, "intimations" (for example, inscriptions, proverbs, signifying the results of their observation), testimony. Literally, "signs" or proofs in confirmation of the word spoken (Isa 7:11).

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown — Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871) — public domain (CC PDM 1.0). Text via the HelloAO Bible API.

Adam Clarke's Commentary

Verse 29. Have ye not asked them that go by the way?] This appears to be Job's answer. Consult travellers who have gone through different countries; and they will tell you that they have seen both examples - the wicked in great prosperity in some instances, while suddenly destroyed in others. See at the end of the chapter. See Clarke on Job 21:34.

Do ye not know their tokens] Mr. Good translates the whole verse thus: "Surely thou canst never have inquired of men of travel; or thou couldst not have been ignorant of their tokens. Hadst thou made proper inquiries, thou wouldst have heard of their awful end in a thousand instances. And also of their prosperity." See at the end of this chapter. See Clarke on Job 21:34.

Adam Clarke's Commentary on the Bible (1810–1826) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword/MySword module.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

(29) Their tokens—i.e., the marks and evidences of their experience, and the conclusions at which they had arrived.

A Bible Commentary for English Readers, edited by Charles John Ellicott (1878–1897) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges

gen. ed. J. J. S. Perowne

29. them that go by the way] The travellers; here those who have travelled far, or come from a distance, and are full of experience.

do ye not know their tokens] Or, regard. Their “tokens” are no doubt the proofs, or examples which they bring forward. The word “regard,” or have respect to, is so used ch. Job_34:19. In other places it means “not to acknowledge,” to repudiate; with this sense the meaning would be, and ye will not (surely) reject their tokens.

29, 30. Travellers give a different account of the fate of the wicked; they tell that he is spared in the day of destruction:

29 Have ye not asked them that go by the way,

And do ye not regard their tokens,

30 That the wicked is spared in the day of destruction,

That they are led forth in the day of wrath?

The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges (gen. ed. J. J. S. Perowne; Cambridge University Press, 1878–1918) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

John Gill's Exposition

That the wicked is reserved to the day of destruction?.... That is, that they are spared, withheld, restrained, as the word (d) signifies, or kept and preserved from many calamities and distresses, which others are exposed unto; and so are reserved, either unto a time of greater destruction in this life or rather to eternal destruction in the world to come; which is the same with the day of judgment, and perdition of ungodly men, when they will be destroyed soul and body, in hell, with an everlasting destruction, as the just demerit of sin; or of that sinful course of life they live, being the broad way which leads to and issues in destruction, and for which there is a day appointed, when it will take place; and unto that day are the wicked reserved, in the purpose and decree of God, by which they are righteously destined to this day of evil, and by the power and providence of God, even the same chains of darkness, in which the angels are reserved unto the same time, being fitted and prepared for destruction by their own sins and transgressions, Pe2 2:4, and unto which they are kept, as condemned malefactors are in their cells, unto the day of execution, they being condemned already, though the sentence is not yet executed; in order to which

they shall be brought forth to the day of wrath; the wrath of God, which is very terrible and dreadful, and is revealed from heaven against all unrighteousness and ungodliness of men, and is here expressed in the plural number, "wraths" (e), either as denoting both present and future wrath; or the vehemency of it, it being exceeding fierce and vehement; and the continuance and duration of it, there will be wrath upon wrath, even to the uttermost, and for ever; and for this a day is fixed, against which day wicked men are treasuring up wrath to themselves, and they shall be brought forth at the day of judgment, to have it poured forth upon them. This is the true state of the case with respect to them, that, though sometimes they are involved in general calamities, as the old world, and the men of Sodom and Gomorrah, Gen 7:23; and sometimes good men are delivered from them, as Noah and Lot were, Gen 7:23, or are taken away by death from the evil to come; yet for the most part, generally speaking, wicked men escape present calamities and distresses, and are not in trouble as other men, but live in ease and pleasure all their days; nevertheless, wrath and ruin, and everlasting destruction, will be their portion.

(d) "prohibebitur", Pagninus, Montanus, Bolducius; so Beza, Vatablus, Mercerus; "subtrahitur", Junius & Tremellius, Piscator, Cocceius; "subdueitur", Schultens. (e) "irarum", Pagninus, Tigurine version, Cocceius, Schultens.

John Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible (1746–1763) — public domain (CC PDM 1.0). Text via the HelloAO Bible API.

Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible

Have ye not asked them that go by the way? - Travelers, who have passed into other countries, and who have had an opportunity of making observations, and of learning the opinions of those residing there. The idea of Job is, that they might have learned from such travelers that such people were “reserved” for future destruction, and that calamity did not immediately overtake them. Information was obtained in ancient times by careful observation, and by traveling, and they who had gone into other countries would be highly regarded concerning point like this. They could speak of what they had observed of the actual dealings of God there, and of the sentiments of sages there. The idea is, that “they” would confirm the truth of what Job had said, that the wicked were often prosperous and happy.

And do ye not know their tokens - The signs, or intimations which they have given of the actual state of things in other countries, perhaps by the inscriptions, records, and proverbs, by which they had “signified” the result of their inquiries.

Albert Barnes' Notes on the Bible (1834–1885) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword/MySword module.

Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary

CHAPTER XXI.

Way. Travellers, who have seen foreign countries, (Vatable) or any one that may be passing, (Sanchez) will answer this objection (Haydock) in my favour. (Menochius) --- They will all agree in testifying that the wicked prosper, even for a long time. (Calmet)

George Leo Haydock (1774–1849), Haydock's Catholic Family Bible and Commentary, 1859 edition — public domain. Excludes Psalms (Douay-Rheims chapter numbering differs from Protestant) and Deuterocanonical books (Catholic canon only).

Matthew Poole's English Annotations

These are the words, either,

1. Of Job’s friends, who thus continue their former discourse by a second inquiry; or rather,

2. Of Job himself, who answers one question with another. You may learn this, which is the matter of our debate, to wit, that good men are oft afflicted, and that wicked men do commonly live and die in great prosperity, and are not punished in this world, even from

them that go by the way, i.e. either from travellers, who having seen and observed many persons, and places, and events, are more capable judges of this matter; or from any person that passeth along the high-way, from every one that you meet with. It is so vulgar and trivial a thing, that no man of common sense is ignorant of it.

Their tokens, i.e. the examples, or evidences, or signs of this truth, which they that go by the way can produce. They will show here and there in divers places the goodly houses, and castles, and other monuments of power and dignity which wicked potentates have erected, and to this day do possess, and in which divers of them live and die. He alludes here to those

tokens which are set up in high-ways for the direction of those who travel in them.

Matthew Poole's English Annotations on the Holy Bible (1683–1685) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword/MySword module.

Whedon's Commentary on the Bible

Daniel D. Whedon

29. Them that go by the way — “Wayfaring men,” who travelled largely, probably in connexion with caravans. Such travellers became popular intelligencers, and were often sent for and consulted by kings. The routes of these caravans embraced even the homes of the patriarchs, (Gen_37:25.) and thus became agencies for the diffusing of religious knowledge.

And do ye not know their tokens — Know, נכר, signifies find strange, that is, despise, (Furst,) or to be ignorant of, (GESENIUS, Thes.,) or mistake. (Arnheim.) Either intentionally or carelessly they have misinterpreted the tokens of these travellers. These tokens were “proofs,” “arguments,” (Psa_86:17,) according to Gesenius and Dillmann, or memorabilia, “things worthy of note.” (Zockler.) Hitzig conjectures that the word אוח, token, is used metaphorically for a kind of tessera recognised by the host. A Punic passage in the “Poenulus” of Plautus, act v, scene i, Kenrick thus reads — “A sign of truth shall be the tessera of hospitality which I carry with me.” (See the comment in his “Phoenicia,” p. 181.) The report of these travellers is, that the punishment of the wicked is in the future life, you (the friends) pervert it, and say that it is always in the present life. Thus Hahn, Stickel, etc.

Daniel D. Whedon (gen. ed.), Commentary on the Old and New Testaments (1874–1909) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

The Pulpit Commentary

Have ye not asked them that go by the way? Job refers his opponents to the first comer (tonta ) the merest passer-by. Let them ask his opinion, and see if he does not consider that, as a general rule, the wicked prosper. And do ye not know their tokens? or, their observations; i.e. the conclusions to which they have come upon the subject from their own observation and experience.

The Pulpit Commentary (1880–1919), ed. H.D.M. Spence-Jones & Joseph S. Exell — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

John Wesley's Explanatory Notes

Them - Any person that passes along the high-way, every one you meet with. It is so vulgar a thing, that no man of common sense is ignorant of it. Tokens - The examples, or evidences, of this truth, which they that go by the way can produce.

John Wesley, Explanatory Notes Upon the Whole Bible (1754–1765) — public domain. Text via the GEBible commentary corpus.

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Door43 World Missions Community

Connecting Statement:

Job continues speaking to his friends.

Have you never asked traveling people? Do you not know the evidence they can tell ... from the day of wrath?

Job uses these questions to rebuke his friends for not learning from people who travel. AT: "You should listen to those who have traveled to distant places. Even they will tell you ... from the day of wrath." (See: Rhetorical Question)

the wicked man is kept from the day of calamity ... he is led away from the day of wrath

These phrase mean the same thing. This can be stated in active form. AT: "God spares the wicked person when he brings disaster on a place" (See: Parallelism and Active or Passive)

translationWords

evil

wrath

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Rashi

Rabbi Shlomo Yitzchaki (Rashi)

Have you not asked etc. All these parables you are composing about me.

and their signs which they made known to you, you shall not make strange to yourselves by not paying attention to them, like (Gen. 42:7), “But he made himself a stranger (ויתנכר) to them.”

Rashi on the Tanakh — English translations: “The Judaica Press complete Tanach with Rashi, translated by A. J. Rosenberg” (CC BY 4.0); “Pentateuch with Rashi's commentary by M. Rosenbaum and A.M. Silbermann, 1929-1934” (public domain); “The Metsudah Tanach series, Lakewood, N.J” (CC BY 4.0); and “The Book of Joshua, Metsudah Publications, 1997” (CC BY 4.0). Text via Sefaria.

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Job, in the Wisdom, opens this verse with 7 words (6 distinct Hebrew lemmas). Its most distinctive word is nâkar (“to know”). A historical commentator’s framing appears above. Read the whole chapter for the surrounding context.

Discussion questions

  1. How does “to know” (nâkar) shape what this verse is saying?
  2. How does Genesis 27:23, which shares the word «to know», read alongside this verse?
  3. What does the repetition of “not” (2× in this one verse) do in this verse?
  4. These translations render this verse differently; the difference is in the English rendering, not the original. What questions does that raise?
  5. «שְׁ֭אֶלְתֶּם» is a Qal Perfect verb. How does that grammatical form shape the action described?
  6. Compare how Trapp's Complete Commentary and Joseph Benson's Commentary read this verse. Where do they agree or differ?

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