John 12:8

Greek (Tischendorf 8th ed.) John 12:8 appears in the Greek New Testament. The text above is from the Tischendorf 8th edition. Each word links to its Strong’s number and a concise gloss. Click any word for its full Thayer’s Greek Lexicon entry.
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For you always have the poor with you, but you don't always have me."
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  • World English Bible Public Domain
    For you always have the poor with you, but you don't always have me."
  • King James Version Public Domain
    For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
  • unfoldingWord Literal Text CC BY-SA 4.0
    For you always have the poor with you, but you do not always have me.”

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  • World English Bible Public Domain
    For you always have the poor with you, but you don't always have me."
  • Berean Standard Bible Public Domain
    The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have Me.”
  • Majority Standard Bible Public Domain
    The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have Me.”
  • King James Version Public Domain
    For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.
  • American Standard Version (1901) Public Domain
    For the poor ye have always with you; but me ye have not always.
  • Revised Version (1885) Public Domain
    For the poor ye have always with you; but me ye have not always.
  • Geneva Bible (1599) Public Domain
    For the poore alwayes yee haue with you, but me ye shall not haue alwayes.
  • Douay-Rheims (1899) Public Domain
    For the poor you have always with you; but me you have not always.
  • Young's Literal Translation Public Domain
    for the poor ye have always with yourselves, and me ye have not always.'
  • Literal Standard Version CC BY-SA 4.0
    for you always have the poor with yourselves, and you do not always have Me.”
  • Unlocked Literal Bible CC BY-SA 4.0
    You will always have the poor with you. But you will not always have me.”
  • unfoldingWord Literal Text CC BY-SA 4.0
    For you always have the poor with you, but you do not always have me.”
  • Darby Bible Public Domain
    for ye have the poor always with you, but me ye have not always.
  • World Messianic Bible Public Domain
    For you always have the poor with you, but you don’t always have me.”
  • Webster's Bible Public Domain
    For the poor ye have always with you; but me ye have not always.
  • Free Bible Version CC BY-SA 4.0
    You'll always have the poor with you, but you won't always have me here.”
  • Bible in Basic English Public Domain
    The poor you have ever with you, but me you have not for ever.
  • Text-Critical English NT CC BY 4.0
    For you always have the poor with you, but you will not always have me.”
  • Tyndale New Testament (1534) Public Domain
    The poore all wayes shall ye have with you but me shall ye not all wayes have.

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πτωχοὺς
ptōchós
G4434
“poor”
Adjective, Accusative, Plural, Masculine
Part of Speech
Adjective
Case
Accusative
Number
Plural
Gender
Masculine
Full Thayer's Definition

Origin: from ptosso to crouch, akin to G4422 and the alternate of G4098 )

TDNT: 20:46,0

1. reduced to beggary, begging, asking alms 2. destitute of wealth, influence, position, honour a. lowly, afflicted, destitute of the Christian virtues and eternal riches b. helpless, powerless to accomplish an end c. poor, needy 3. lacking in anything a. as respects their spirit 1. destitute of wealth of learning and intellectual culture which the schools afford (men of this class most readily give themselves up to Christ's teaching and proved them selves fitted to lay hold of the heavenly treasure)
  1. τοὺς ho G3588 “the” Article, Accusative, Plural, Masculine
  2. γὰρ gár G1063 “for” Conjunction
  3. πάντοτε pántote G3842 “always” Adverb
  4. ἔχετε échō G2192 “to have” Verb, Present, Active, Indicative, 2nd person, Plural
  5. μεθ’ metá G3326 “with” Preposition
  6. ἑαυτῶν heautoû G1438 “himself” Reflexive pronoun, 2nd person, Genitive, Plural, Masculine
  7. ἐμὲ egṓ G1473 “I” Personal pronoun, 1st person, Accusative, Singular
  8. δὲ dé G1161 “but” Conjunction
  9. οὐ ou G3756 “not” Particle, Negative
  10. πάντοτε pántote G3842 “always” Adverb
  11. ἔχετε échō G2192 “to have” Verb, Present, Active, Indicative, 2nd person, Plural

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πτωχοὺς poor G4434 occurs in 34 verses of the Greek New Testament. Also found in:

Repetition

Words recur within this verse:

  • πάντοτε always G3842 ×2
  • ἔχετε to have G2192 ×2

Cross-references

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Topical passages linked to John 12:8 in the Treasury of Scripture Knowledge — connected by theme and wording, ordered by reader-vote popularity; previews shown in the World English Bible.

  • Deuteronomy 15:11 For the poor will never cease out of the land: therefore I command you, saying, You shall surely open your hand to your brother, to your needy, and to your poor, in your land.
  • Mark 14:7 For you always have the poor with you, and whenever you want to, you can do them good; but you will not always have me.
  • Matthew 26:11 For you always have the poor with you; but you don't always have me.
  • John 12:35 Jesus therefore said to them, "Yet a little while the light is with you. Walk while you have the light, that darkness doesn't overtake you. He who walks in the darkness doesn't know where he is going.
  • John 13:33 Little children, I will be with you a little while longer. You will seek me, and as I said to the Jews, 'Where I am going, you can't come,' so now I tell you.
  • John 8:21 Jesus said therefore again to them, "I am going away, and you will seek me, and you will die in your sins. Where I go, you can't come."
  • John 16:5–7 But now I am going to him who sent me, and none of you asks me, 'Where are you going?'
  • Acts 1:9–11 When he had said these things, as they were looking, he was taken up, and a cloud received him out of their sight.
  • Song of Solomon 5:6 I opened to my beloved; But my beloved left; gone away. My heart went out when he spoke. I looked for him, but I didn't find him. I called him, but he didn't answer.

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Commentary

Notes on John 12:8 from classic Christian and Jewish commentators (each source and its license shown beneath its notes). The classic Christian expositions comment on the surrounding passage and are grouped to its opening verse, so a note may address several verses; the Jewish commentaries on the Tanakh (Rashi and others) are per-verse, so they appear only where the commentator wrote on this verse.

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Tyndale Open Study Notes

Tyndale Open Resources

12:8 Jesus would never neglect the poor, but this opportunity to serve him was unparalleled.

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Expositor's Greek Testament

ed. W. Robertson Nicoll

Joh 12:8 . As for Judas’ suggestion, He disposes of it, τοὺς πτωχοὺς … ἔχετε . “For the poor ye have always with you,” and every day, therefore, have opportunities of considering and relieving them, “but me ye have not always,” and therefore this apparent extravagance, being occasional only, finds justification. Occasional lavish expenditure on friends is justified by continuous expenditure on the real necessities of the poor.

The Expositor's Greek Testament, edited by W. Robertson Nicoll (1897–1910) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown

Robert Jamieson, A. R. Fausset & David Brown

the poor always . . . with you--referring to Deu 15:11.

but me . . . not always--a gentle hint of His approaching departure. He adds (Mar 14:8), "She hath done what she could," a noble testimony, embodying a principle of immense importance. "Verily, I say unto you, Wheresoever this Gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her" (Mat 26:13; Mar 14:9). "In the act of love done to Him she had erected to herself an eternal monument, as lasting as the Gospel, the eternal word of God. From generation to generation this remarkable prophecy of the Lord has been fulfilled; and even we, in explaining this saying of the Redeemer, of necessity contribute to its accomplishment" [OLSHAUSEN]. "Who but Himself had the power to ensure to any work of man, even if resounding in his own time through the whole earth, an imperishable remembrance in the stream of history? Behold once more here, the majesty of His royal judicial supremacy in the government of the world, in this, Verily I say unto you" [STIER]. Beautiful are the lessons here: (1) Love to Christ transfigures the humblest services. All, indeed, who have themselves a heart value its least outgoings beyond the most costly mechanical performances; but how does it endear the Saviour to us to find Him endorsing the principle as His own standard in judging of character and deeds!

What though in poor and humble guise

Thou here didst sojourn, cottage-born,

Yet from Thy glory in the skies

Our earthly gold Thou didst not scorn.

For Love delights to bring her best,

And where Love is, that offering evermore is blest.

Love on the Saviour's dying head

Her spikenard drops unblam'd may pour,

May mount His cross, and wrap Him dead

In spices from the golden shore.

KEBLE.

(2) Works of utility should never be set in opposition to the promptings of self-sacrificing love, and the sincerity of those who do so is to be suspected. Under the mask of concern for the poor at home, how many excuse themselves from all care of the perishing heathen abroad. (3) Amidst conflicting duties, that which our "hand (presently) findeth to do" is to be preferred, and even a less duty only to be done now to a greater that can be done at any time. (4) "If there be first a willing mind, it is accepted according to that a man hath, and not according to that he hath not" (Co2 8:12). --"She hath done what she could" (Mar 14:8). (5) As Jesus beheld in spirit the universal diffusion of His Gospel, while His lowest depth of humiliation was only approaching, so He regards the facts of His earthly history as constituting the substance of this Gospel, and the relation of them as just the "preaching of this Gospel." Not that preachers are to confine themselves to a bare narration of these facts, but that they are to make their whole preaching turn upon them as its grand center, and derive from them its proper vitality; all that goes before this in the Bible being but the preparation for them, and all that follows but the sequel.

Jamieson, Fausset & Brown — Commentary Critical and Explanatory on the Whole Bible (1871) — public domain (CC PDM 1.0). Text via the HelloAO Bible API.

John Calvin's Commentaries

8. For the poor you have always with you. We must observe what I have already pointed out, that a distinction is here drawn expressly between the extraordinary action of Mary, and the daily service which is due to Christ. Those persons, therefore, are apes, and not imitators, who are desirous to serve Christ by costly and splendid display; as if Christ approved of what was done once, and did not rather forbid that it should be done afterwards.

But me you have not always. When he says, that he will not always be with his disciples, this ought to be referred to that kind of presence to which carnal worship and costly honors are suitable. For as to his presence with us by the grace and power of his Spirit, his dwelling in us, and also feeding us with his flesh and blood, this has nothing to do with bodily observances. Of all the pompous ceremonies which the Papists have contrived for the worship of Christ, in vain do they tell us, that they have bestowed them upon him, for he openly rejects them. When he says, that the poor will always be with us, though, by this saying, he reproves the hypocrisy of the Jews, yet we may learn from it a profitable doctrine; namely, that alms, by which the wants of the poor are relieved, are sacrifices acceptable, and of sweet savor, to God, and that any other kind of expense in the worship of God is improperly bestowed.

John Calvin's Commentaries (1540-1563) — public domain. Text from the Calvin Translation Society English edition (1840s-50s) via the Christian Classics Ethereal Library (ccel.org). Calvin's coverage is partial (roughly two-thirds of the Bible); uncommented books and verses are honest gaps, never fabricated. The 19th-century editor's footnotes and remarks are omitted so the notes are faithfully Calvin's own voice.

Ellicott's Commentary for English Readers

(8) This verse occurs word for word in both of the first two Gospels. (See Notes there.)

A Bible Commentary for English Readers, edited by Charles John Ellicott (1878–1897) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges

gen. ed. J. J. S. Perowne

8. For the poor, &c.] Comp. Deu_15:11. Every word of this verse occurs in the first two Gospels, though not quite in the same order. Here the emphasis is on ‘the poor,’ there on ‘always.’ The striking originality of the saying, and the large claim which it makes, are evidence of its origin from Him who spake as never man spake. Considering how Christ speaks of the poor elsewhere, these words may be regarded as quite beyond the reach of a writer of fiction.

The Cambridge Bible for Schools and Colleges (gen. ed. J. J. S. Perowne; Cambridge University Press, 1878–1918) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

John Gill's Exposition

For the poor always ye have with you,.... And so would not want opportunities of showing a regard to them, which Christ always recommended; nor does he here in the least discourage an industrious and affectionate concern for them: the words seem to be a sort of prophecy, that there would be always poor persons in the churches of Christ, to be taken care of and provided for; See Gill on Mat 26:11; and yet the Jews suppose cases, in which the collectors of alms may have no poor to distribute to, and direct what they shall do in such cases (l):

but me ye have not always; meaning, with respect to his corporeal presence, which would be quickly withdrawn from them, when there would be no more an opportunity of showing him personal respect, in such a way.

(l) T. Bab. Pesachim, fol. 13. 1. & Bava Metzia, fol. 38. 1. & Bava Bathra, fol. 8. 2.

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Trapp's Complete Commentary

John Trapp

8 For the poor always ye have with you; but me ye have not always.

Ver. 8. The poor ye have always with you] To give to when you please; and in gratifying whom, ye may glorify God and secure your substance; for Manus pauperum gazophylacium Christi, the hand of the poor is the treasury of Christ, saith an ancient.

But me have ye not always] And yet we have, in his poor members, the family of faith. Hence Salvian sticks not to say, that Christ is maximus mendicorum, the greatest of beggars; and addeth, Non eget miseria sed eget misericordia: non eget deltate pro se, sed eget pietate prd suis. (Salv. ad Eccles. Cathol. iv.)

John Trapp, A Commentary or Exposition upon All the Books of the Old and New Testament (1647–1656) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Haydock's Catholic Bible Commentary

Me you have not always with you. He speaks of his corporal presence; for by his majesty, by his providence, by his ineffable and invincible grace, he ever fulfils what he said, (Matthew xxviii.) Behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world. (St. Augustine, tract. 50 in Joan.)

George Leo Haydock (1774–1849), Haydock's Catholic Family Bible and Commentary, 1859 edition — public domain. Excludes Psalms (Douay-Rheims chapter numbering differs from Protestant) and Deuterocanonical books (Catholic canon only).

The Pulpit Commentary

This verse is omitted in D, but abundantly attested here. It occurs almost verbatim in Matthew and Mark, and cannot be set aside on the authority of this one eccentric manuscript. For the poor ye have always with you. (cf. Deu_15:11) You will always have opportunity of doing to them, as to representatives of me, what is in your heart of compassion. (cf. Mat_25:40-45) But me, as an object of personal, tangible regard and visible attention, deserving thus and ever the affluence and exuberance of your love, ye have not always; and, though I shall be with you always in my Divine power and Spirit, even unto the end of the world, and though I shall always be with you in the person of the poor and needy, yet in the sense in which this expression of love Can be made, I shall be absent. As though he had said, "After this very night, the opportunity to offer me affectionate attention or symbolic homage, to give expression to feelings in accordance with just presentiments as to my mission, will be over forever, and belong to the irrecoverable pastNow or never! She has done this thing, she will have everlasting remembrance thereby." The frankincense of the Wise Men, the ointment of Mary, the homage of the Greeks, were symbols, and can never be repeated. The greatest motive for generous and affectionate interest in the poor is that they represent the Lord; but they are not to be rivals of the Lord himself. Westcott remarks, "The promise of the future record of the act of love is omitted by the one evangelist who gives the name of the woman who showed this devotion to her Master." Moulton, "The very charity that cares for the poor whom we see has been kept alive by faith in and devotion to the crucified Redeemer whom we cannot see."

The Pulpit Commentary (1880–1919), ed. H.D.M. Spence-Jones & Joseph S. Exell — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Cambridge Greek Testament for Schools and Colleges

8. τοὺς πτωχοὺς γὰρ κ.τ.λ. Comp. Deu 15:11. Every word of this verse occurs in the first two Gospels, though not quite in the same order. Here the emphasis is on ‘the poor,’ there on ‘always.’ The striking originality of the saying, and the large claim which it makes, are evidence of its origin from Him who spake as never man spake. Considering how Christ speaks of the poor elsewhere, these words may be regarded as quite beyond the reach of a writer of fiction. S. John, who gives Mary’s name, omits the promise of fame as wide as Christendom. S. Matthew and S. Mark, who give the promise, do not give her name: see on Joh 2:19, Joh 18:11.

Cambridge Greek Testament for Schools and Colleges (Cambridge University Press, 1896; 21 vols, various authors incl. Carr, Maclear, Plummer, Farrar, Lumby, Moule, M. R. James, Simcox) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

Alford’s Greek Testament

Henry Alford

8.] See note on Mark, vv. 7, 8.

γάρ implies the ἔργον καλὸν εἰργάσατο εἰς ἐμέ of Matt. ver. 10.

Henry Alford, The Greek Testament (1849–1861) — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

International Critical Commentary

8. This verse is identical with Mat 26:11, and both Jn. and Mt. reproduce exactly the words of Mar 14:7, both of them omitting Mk.’s καὶ ὅταν θέλητε, δύνασθε αὐτοὺς εὖ ποιῆσαι. But that Jn. is using Mk. rather than Mt. all through the story is not doubtful.2

D and Syr. sin. omit the whole verse here for some unknown reason, perhaps because ἐμὲ δὲ οὐ πάντοτε ἔχετε was (mistakenly) deemed to be at variance with Mat 28:20. But cf. 17:11 οὐκέτι εἰμὶ ἐν τῷ κόσμῳ.

With πτωχοὺς πάντοτε ἔχετε μεθʼ ἑαυτῶν, cf. Deu 15:11.

The People’s Curiosity About Lazarus, and the Hostility of the Priests (vv. 9-11)

International Critical Commentary — older volumes (1896–1929), various authors — public domain. Text from a community e-Sword module.

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John, in the Gospels, opens this verse with 12 words (10 distinct Greek lemmas). Its most distinctive word is ptōchós (“poor”). A historical commentator’s framing appears above. Read the whole chapter for the surrounding context.

Discussion questions

  1. How does “poor” (ptōchós) shape what this verse is saying?
  2. Matthew 5:3 shares the word «poor» with this verse. How do the two illuminate each other?
  3. “always” occurs 2× in this one verse. What is the effect of the repetition?
  4. These translations render this verse differently; the difference is in the English rendering, not the original. What questions does that raise?
  5. Reading how Tyndale Open Study Notes and Expositor's Greek Testament read this verse, where do the two commentators agree and where do they part?

Things to notice

  • These translations choose different wording for 2 words in this verse.
  • “always” occurs 2× in this single verse.
  • 10 distinct Greek lemmas span 12 words in this verse.

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